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Poster: jessandra Date: Dec 3, 2009 12:44pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Best Spanish Jam and/or Best complete Weather Report Suite

Hi again,

I'm combining both questions into one so please answer which ever one you prefer or both. (This way I'll only get half the insults and perverted replies.)

I love them both but I'd spend the rest of my life listening to all the recordings so please point me out to some real highlights!

Thanks & much appreciated!

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Poster: clashcity Date: Dec 3, 2009 1:10pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best Spanish Jam and/or Best complete Weather Report Suite

6/18/74 Freedom Hall is the best WRS and then some in my book.

Where they take that Let It Grow has to be one of the top five jams the band has ever performed.

I've always loved the Spanish Jam from 2/14/68

Well known shows, but I suppose that's for good reason.

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Poster: jessandra Date: Dec 3, 2009 1:41pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best Spanish Jam and/or Best complete Weather Report Suite

Cool, I love the Freedom Hall version and actually know it very well from an old tape - eons ago. Forgot about it and certainly didn't know it was one of the best.

Thanks!

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Poster: clashcity Date: Dec 3, 2009 3:36pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best Spanish Jam and/or Best complete Weather Report Suite

I'm sure others have their own favorites, or consider other versions the best. But for me no other Weather Report Suite comes close in anyway.

That take Let It Grow into some serious interstellar territory, and then drop you into The Other One which turns into a searing blues jam.

Enjoy!

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Poster: jessandra Date: Dec 3, 2009 1:34pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best Spanish Jam and/or Best complete Weather Report Suite

I have that - cool - putting it on right now!

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Poster: cush212 Date: Dec 3, 2009 12:58pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best Spanish Jam and/or Best complete Weather Report Suite

New Years Eve "Dead" in Oakland in 91/92??? Had a nice Weather Report Suite...

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Dec 3, 2009 1:07pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best Spanish Jam and/or Best complete Weather Report Suite

Spanish jam threads (to get you moving in the right direction):

http://www.archive.org/iathreads/post-view.php?id=127227

http://www.archive.org/iathreads/post-view.php?id=69714

Start in earlier times (two I like are 2-14-68 and 2-11-70)

This post was modified by bluedevil on 2009-12-03 21:07:21

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Poster: lobster12 Date: Dec 3, 2009 1:08pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best Spanish Jam and/or Best complete Weather Report Suite

might be 03 you're thinking of.

Very nice show indeed

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Poster: cush212 Date: Dec 4, 2009 12:40pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best Spanish Jam and/or Best complete Weather Report Suite

Me bad stuck inside of Mobile with the 90's Blues Again...

Hope that was as clever as it seemed.

;)

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Poster: fenario80 Date: Dec 3, 2009 1:11pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best Spanish Jam and/or Best complete Weather Report Suite

Also the Miami FL 1974 Spanish Jam - don't know the date but it's in the So Many Roads box set:
Dark Star instrumental>Spanish Jam>US Blues

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Poster: Miss Divine Date: Dec 3, 2009 10:44pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best Spanish Jam and/or Best complete Weather Report Suite

http://www.archive.org/details/gd73-03-24.sbd.bertha-ashley.25508.sbeok.shnf

That's one of my fave Spanish Jams.
And I love Bertha as a first set opener, makes me dance and jig all around the room.

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Poster: cush212 Date: Dec 4, 2009 12:43pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best Spanish Jam and/or Best complete Weather Report Suite

Sorry Jess... The 2/14/68 is a nice one... Cliff Hucker Can hook you up with (literally) the complete history of Spanish Jams... Did for me once, was a tun of fun!!!

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Poster: fenario80 Date: Dec 3, 2009 1:06pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best Spanish Jam and/or Best complete Weather Report Suite

I've been listening to this show all morning; it may or may not answer both of your questions:

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1974-07-19.sbd.miller.32634.sbeok.flac16

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Poster: chinarider79 Date: Dec 3, 2009 1:15pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best Spanish Jam and/or Best complete Weather Report Suite

I think this is indeed the answer..... at least it is what first came to my mind. Spanish Jam comes together nicely, but my favorite thing that happens during that set comes at the 1:58 mark of LIG..... it's like heaven's trumpet gathering the angels.

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Poster: DianaW Date: Dec 3, 2009 6:17pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best Spanish Jam and/or Best complete Weather Report Suite

Yes, this one.

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Poster: jessandra Date: Dec 3, 2009 1:17pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best Spanish Jam and/or Best complete Weather Report Suite

Thanks everyone,

I might explain - my 'best of questions' (and there will be more) are due to situation that many of you may also be familiar with.

When it was rumoured that the SBDs were disappearing several years ago, and I didn't have high speed internet., a dear friend was downloading day and night and he sent me copies. On one single day I received a package with over 150 shows and adding that to the shows I already had ...

Well, to make a long story short - I tend to listen to my old favs over and over and over again - but I realize I have tons of shows which I have never even listened to in their entirety and before planting myself in front of the stereo for the next 20 years I am, instead, asking for your recommendations.

Perhaps, I only have sit in front of my stereo for 10 years then - : -)

Thanks

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Poster: Phlesh Wound Date: Dec 3, 2009 1:52pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best Spanish Jam and/or Best complete Weather Report Suite

Here are a few more, several of these may have been mentioned already but here goes:
Spanish Jam:
74-06-23 Jai-Alai Fronton
http://www.archive.org/details/gd1974-06-23.sbd.matrix-sb21b.chappell.83489.flac16
Short but very very sweet Spanish Jam. Jerry's guitar is spine-tingling electricity and Phil's bass is spot on. Sweet transition in to a jammed out, rocking U.S. Blues

74-06-26 Providence Civic Center
http://www.archive.org/details/gd74-06-26.moore.weiner.gdADT17.16037.sbeok.shnf
Released on Dick's Picks 12 but this Jerry Moore AUD certainly does it justice. One of the longest Spanish Jams if not the longest and also, if I'm not mistaken, featuring a "Heaven Help the Fool" tease somewhere around minute 15.

70-02-11 Fillmore East
http://www.archive.org/details/gd1970-02-11.sbd.smith.patched.99154.sbeok.flac16
Spanish Jam with guests. The Dark Star->Spanish->Lovelight on this classic feature Duane and Gregg Allman, Peter Green, Arthur Love, Berry Oakley and allegedly Danny Kirwan. A bit messy at times but one hell of a mess.

68-2-14 is also great but not on the archive, though honestly any performance of this jam in that year is worthwhile.
As for later versions, they're not quite to the same level as the early versions but there are a couple decent ones in 81. 81-5-16 Barton Hall is a nice jammed out one and 81-8-12 "Spanish Space" is pretty nice.


Weather Report Suite:
I have to agree with 74-06-18 as just about as good as it gets though sadly unavailable thanks to the stupid Road Trips Series
Instead try these:
74-06-28 Boston Garden
http://www.archive.org/details/gd74-06-28.moore.weiner.gdADT18.16038.sbeok.shnf
Also from Dick's Picks 12. An epic version with a great LiG that goes into a Mind Left Body and Dark Star jam (called "Heaven Help the Fool Jam" on this source for no apparent reason)

74-07-19 Selland Arena
http://www.archive.org/details/gd74-07-19.sbd.symons.12381.sbeok.shnf
Right at the heart of an epic second set jam and this one is perfectly executed before falling away in to Eyes->China.

73-10-30 Kiel Auditorium
http://www.archive.org/details/gd73-10-30.sbd.powell.16818.sbeok.shnf
A really beautiful version that appears out of Eyes at the end of another epic jam.

73-09-24 Pittsburgh Civic Arena
http://www.archive.org/details/gd1973-09-24.mtx.tobin.95744.flac16
Not necessarily a greatest ever version but a nice one and my favorite of those that feature Joe Ellis and Martin Fierro on sax and trumpet. Also unique about this show is the first (and I think last) version of Nobody's Fault But Mine with lyrics since '66. Check it out!

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Poster: jglynn1.2 Date: Dec 4, 2009 7:13am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best Spanish Jam and/or Best complete Weather Report Suite

Another nice '81 Spanish and AUD is

http://www.archive.org/details/gd81-05-06.glassberg.vernon.17697.sbeok.shnf

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Poster: fenario80 Date: Dec 3, 2009 2:54pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best Spanish Jam and/or Best complete Weather Report Suite

Bet you dollars for doughnuts that's a "Sage & Spirit" tease rather than a "Heaven Help The Fool" tease ...

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Poster: Phlesh Wound Date: Dec 3, 2009 3:20pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best Spanish Jam and/or Best complete Weather Report Suite

Well I could be wrong but I just listened to it again myself and I have to say that it sounds an awful lot like Heaven Help the Fool. This was before Bobby wrote Heaven Help but there are other examples of him playing riffs from songs before they were written, the Weather Report Suite riff in T.O.O. on 71-08-06 for example.
Anyhow, the "tease" starts at 14:56 and continues until the end on the Moore aud, not sure of the timing on the SBD. Listen and see what you think

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Poster: fenario80 Date: Dec 3, 2009 3:35pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best Spanish Jam and/or Best complete Weather Report Suite

Well I am probably just about the least musically inclined person around here, but I hear what you're talking about, and it does sound like the HHTF chords.

I was also kind of joking off the fact that I have trouble telling those two songs apart ... as far as I can tell it could be either one.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Dec 3, 2009 1:46pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best Spanish Jam and/or Best complete Weather Report Suite

Hey--that really makes you an "old timer" to have been around prior to the Big Bob Yank For College Funds date in Nov, 05! You've got to rec' some props for that...when did you start posting?

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Poster: jessandra Date: Dec 3, 2009 2:03pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best Spanish Jam and/or Best complete Weather Report Suite

I only started posting about a week ago. I have been on this site for downloading since before my twins were born Jan. 2002. I was stuck at home, doing covers and listening to the GD. Then the babies grew and my free time shunk :-)



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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Dec 3, 2009 2:07pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best Spanish Jam and/or Best complete Weather Report Suite

last month on this name. Even I was around before that, but didn't start posting until June '07. I can't really blame people for not wanting to jump in. For awhile there every new person was believed to be a troll/multiposter. Funny i believe mcglone recently referred to one of the incidents that kept me from posting for awhile.

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Poster: RBNW....new and improved! Date: Dec 3, 2009 2:23pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best Spanish Jam and/or Best complete Weather Report Suite

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_jC8_6SPqGBk/Sr04qgpdnSI/AAAAAAAAAOY/EFGv7fqoh2M/s320/mariachi.jpg

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Poster: IREX Date: Aug 28, 2011 4:34pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best Spanish Jam and/or Best complete Weather Report Suite

Orpheum Theatre on 1976-07-16

Realize this is a stale thread but of all the renditions of the Spanish Jam the one played this night is incredibly sexy